Heh, yeah, 'bits of amazing buried in a whole lot of mess' is probably the more accurate expectation. There are parts of this movie that spoke to my id in ways I didn't know were possible outside of fanfic, so naturally I'm crazy about it. But ... well, let's just say I'm not shocked by the dismal early reviews it's attracting from critics, lol.
I've heard some grumbles about how Abrams was leaning way too hard on the nostalgia in this one, but it sounds like that's a quality he could have done with being more nostalgic about.
This, 100%. It's definitely my biggest complaint about this trilogy compared to the others - the strong, streamlined character focus just isn't there, and it ends up feeling cluttered and overwhelming. One of the reasons I'm so extra glad I had spoilers this time is because I'm not sure I'd even have understood half the plot if I hadn't had some space to process it beforehand. On the other hand, the emotional through line with Rey and Kylo was genuinely well executed in my opinion, and the movie would have been much stronger if they'd pared it back to that instead of trying to wrap up everyone else's storylines simultaneously. But I'm so biased towards Reylo that you should probably take my opinion with a grain of salt until you've seen it yourself.
...It also sounds like Rey super murders Kylo and then sobs over him as he dies in her arms with a radiantly joyous smile on his face, and I'm not sure if I want you to spoil that for me or not, because that sounds AMAZING and might actually make me ship it and if it's not accurate then I want at least a few days to live in this beautiful fantasy world where it is.
I shall say nothing! But I'll be hanging out to hear your thoughts once you've seen it.
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Date: 2019-12-21 03:13 am (UTC)I've heard some grumbles about how Abrams was leaning way too hard on the nostalgia in this one, but it sounds like that's a quality he could have done with being more nostalgic about.
This, 100%. It's definitely my biggest complaint about this trilogy compared to the others - the strong, streamlined character focus just isn't there, and it ends up feeling cluttered and overwhelming. One of the reasons I'm so extra glad I had spoilers this time is because I'm not sure I'd even have understood half the plot if I hadn't had some space to process it beforehand. On the other hand, the emotional through line with Rey and Kylo was genuinely well executed in my opinion, and the movie would have been much stronger if they'd pared it back to that instead of trying to wrap up everyone else's storylines simultaneously. But I'm so biased towards Reylo that you should probably take my opinion with a grain of salt until you've seen it yourself.
...It also sounds like Rey super murders Kylo and then sobs over him as he dies in her arms with a radiantly joyous smile on his face, and I'm not sure if I want you to spoil that for me or not, because that sounds AMAZING and might actually make me ship it and if it's not accurate then I want at least a few days to live in this beautiful fantasy world where it is.
I shall say nothing! But I'll be hanging out to hear your thoughts once you've seen it.